No good deed goes unpunished

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Hachi, please remember that Top Gear is meant to be /entertainment/. It's
basically a reality show revolving around cars. Do not expect accurate
journalism or accurate anything else in that show. And Jeremy Clarkson --
very famously -- hates Americans.

It was Jeremy Clarkson that had the Camaro, not James May, and the Camaro
was a '91, not a '89 or a '90.

More here:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear:_US_Special>

I remembered rereading it that it was in fact "supposedly" a '91.

However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Hachi, please remember that Top Gear is meant to be /entertainment/. It's
basically a reality show revolving around cars. Do not expect accurate
journalism or accurate anything else in that show. And Jeremy Clarkson --
very famously -- hates Americans.

It was Jeremy Clarkson that had the Camaro, not James May, and the Camaro
was a '91, not a '89 or a '90.

More here:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear:_US_Special>

I remembered rereading it that it was in fact "supposedly" a '91.

However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Hachi, please remember that Top Gear is meant to be /entertainment/. It's
basically a reality show revolving around cars. Do not expect accurate
journalism or accurate anything else in that show. And Jeremy Clarkson --
very famously -- hates Americans.

It was Jeremy Clarkson that had the Camaro, not James May, and the Camaro
was a '91, not a '89 or a '90.

More here:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear:_US_Special>

I remembered rereading it that it was in fact "supposedly" a '91.

However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Hachi, please remember that Top Gear is meant to be /entertainment/. It's
basically a reality show revolving around cars. Do not expect accurate
journalism or accurate anything else in that show. And Jeremy Clarkson --
very famously -- hates Americans.

It was Jeremy Clarkson that had the Camaro, not James May, and the Camaro
was a '91, not a '89 or a '90.

More here:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear:_US_Special>

I remembered rereading it that it was in fact "supposedly" a '91.

However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Hachi, please remember that Top Gear is meant to be /entertainment/. It's
basically a reality show revolving around cars. Do not expect accurate
journalism or accurate anything else in that show. And Jeremy Clarkson --
very famously -- hates Americans.

It was Jeremy Clarkson that had the Camaro, not James May, and the Camaro
was a '91, not a '89 or a '90.

More here:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear:_US_Special>

I remembered rereading it that it was in fact "supposedly" a '91.

However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Hachi, please remember that Top Gear is meant to be /entertainment/. It's
basically a reality show revolving around cars. Do not expect accurate
journalism or accurate anything else in that show. And Jeremy Clarkson --
very famously -- hates Americans.

It was Jeremy Clarkson that had the Camaro, not James May, and the Camaro
was a '91, not a '89 or a '90.

More here:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear:_US_Special>

I remembered rereading it that it was in fact "supposedly" a '91.

However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Hachi, please remember that Top Gear is meant to be /entertainment/. It's
basically a reality show revolving around cars. Do not expect accurate
journalism or accurate anything else in that show. And Jeremy Clarkson --
very famously -- hates Americans.

It was Jeremy Clarkson that had the Camaro, not James May, and the Camaro
was a '91, not a '89 or a '90.

More here:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear:_US_Special>

I remembered rereading it that it was in fact "supposedly" a '91.

However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Hachi, please remember that Top Gear is meant to be /entertainment/. It's
basically a reality show revolving around cars. Do not expect accurate
journalism or accurate anything else in that show. And Jeremy Clarkson --
very famously -- hates Americans.

It was Jeremy Clarkson that had the Camaro, not James May, and the Camaro
was a '91, not a '89 or a '90.

More here:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear:_US_Special>

I remembered rereading it that it was in fact "supposedly" a '91.

However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Hachi, please remember that Top Gear is meant to be /entertainment/. It's
basically a reality show revolving around cars. Do not expect accurate
journalism or accurate anything else in that show. And Jeremy Clarkson --
very famously -- hates Americans.

It was Jeremy Clarkson that had the Camaro, not James May, and the Camaro
was a '91, not a '89 or a '90.

More here:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear:_US_Special>

I remembered rereading it that it was in fact "supposedly" a '91.

However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Hachi, please remember that Top Gear is meant to be /entertainment/. It's
basically a reality show revolving around cars. Do not expect accurate
journalism or accurate anything else in that show. And Jeremy Clarkson --
very famously -- hates Americans.

It was Jeremy Clarkson that had the Camaro, not James May, and the Camaro
was a '91, not a '89 or a '90.

More here:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear:_US_Special>

I remembered rereading it that it was in fact "supposedly" a '91.

However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Hachi, please remember that Top Gear is meant to be /entertainment/. It's
basically a reality show revolving around cars. Do not expect accurate
journalism or accurate anything else in that show. And Jeremy Clarkson --
very famously -- hates Americans.

It was Jeremy Clarkson that had the Camaro, not James May, and the Camaro
was a '91, not a '89 or a '90.

More here:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear:_US_Special>

I remembered rereading it that it was in fact "supposedly" a '91.

However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Hachi, please remember that Top Gear is meant to be /entertainment/. It's
basically a reality show revolving around cars. Do not expect accurate
journalism or accurate anything else in that show. And Jeremy Clarkson --
very famously -- hates Americans.

It was Jeremy Clarkson that had the Camaro, not James May, and the Camaro
was a '91, not a '89 or a '90.

More here:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear:_US_Special>

I remembered rereading it that it was in fact "supposedly" a '91.

However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

 

[Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B]

Hachi, please remember that Top Gear is meant to be /entertainment/. It's
basically a reality show revolving around cars. Do not expect accurate
journalism or accurate anything else in that show. And Jeremy Clarkson --
very famously -- hates Americans.

It was Jeremy Clarkson that had the Camaro, not James May, and the Camaro
was a '91, not a '89 or a '90.

More here:
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gear:_US_Special>

I remembered rereading it that it was in fact "supposedly" a '91.

However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

 

[Econo-cars]

>
However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

It is unfortunately true that charity in America has to come with a written
waiver of liability or risk getting sued. It is the same reason why so many
large food chains have stopped giving extras/leftovers to charities feeding
the poor, chains as large as McDonald's and Starbucks. They now throw the
leftovers (some times only half an hour old) out in the trash. Though I do
remember hearing that Starbucks once got sued because a homeless person dug
a donut out of the trash and got sick afterwards.

Econo-cars

 

[Econo-cars]

That is trickle down from the top of the power structure.

320 Million and growing, we're not all thieves! If we did a better job at
doing something about the 30% and growing part of our population that is
below are sitting at the poverty line...

Besides I think other countries including England have their own horror
stories about scam artists. The difference may be that in some of those
countries the scam attacks are directed externally to other nations, ours
are usually more internal in nature.

Econo-cars

 

[John]

Never underestimate the will of some American people to get something
for nothing. We are a litigious nation of thieves.

Easy there, the majority of us in the states are disgusted when this
crap happens. We are responsible people who hold our self accountable
for our actions. The problem is too many of the other assholes get the
publicity.
I didn't see the show but now I'll have to watch it on demand.
BTW, why not just call the woman's bluff and take the car back?

 

[John]

Never underestimate the will of some American people to get something
for nothing. We are a litigious nation of thieves.

Easy there, the majority of us in the states are disgusted when this
crap happens. We are responsible people who hold our self accountable
for our actions. The problem is too many of the other assholes get the
publicity.
I didn't see the show but now I'll have to watch it on demand.
BTW, why not just call the woman's bluff and take the car back?

 

[Jeff Strickland]

I remembered rereading it that it was in fact "supposedly" a '91.

However, none of that excuses the fact that they GAVE the cars away to
needy people, and got KICKED IN THE ASS for it!

The real moral of the story is to give stuff away and say, "I have stuff to
give away, do you want it?" and not specifiy what the stuff is in case
somebody wants to challenge that the stuff is really something different --
one could give away a car, and then be challenged because it's really a
crossover, or an SUV is a truck, or whatever is a whatsoever.

 

[Bret]

The real moral of the story is to give stuff away and say, "I have stuff to
give away, do you want it?" and not specifiy what the stuff is in case
somebody wants to challenge that the stuff is really something different --
one could give away a car, and then be challenged because it's really a
crossover, or an SUV is a truck, or whatever is a whatsoever.

Don't you have contract law in the states?
Offer : acceptance : "CONSIDERATION"

 

[Jeff Strickland]

Don't you have contract law in the states?
Offer : acceptance : "CONSIDERATION"

Consideration is that which changes hands, money, not the thoughtful process
of considering what one is getting involved in.

The consideration for the car is the money that changes hands, not the
decision making process. In the case of the FREE CAR, there is no
consideration.

I'm not sure why the donors did not face the lawsuit head on -- "Your honor,
we donated a car to charity and we paid to have it repaired first. We don't
know what year it was, and because we gave it away, it didn't seem
important. The plaintiff is driving a free car and complaining about it."

The vehicle they gave away has no value, and they could have made a strong
argument that it should have been in small claims court. Regardless, I see
no grounds for the recipients of the donation to sue because the car was an
'89 or '90 -- THEY DIDN'T PAY FOR IT, so they have no loss because of the
stated year. And if the piece of crap broke down in the parking lot before
they could get to the street, then it was still free and they have no loss.