I can't believe this

[Jim Stewart]

The person who was supposed to do the haggling on my behalf (for 2005
Subary Legacy) was persuading me to get Hyundai.

Please, please, please buy the Hyundai....

 

[amanda992004]

Not on your life. I exist to annoy you.

 

[y_p_w]

I am a proud owner of a 1990 Hyundai Excel. Yes the original
Excel, the alleged piece of crap, and proverbial pile of junk.

Wasn't that back when they used Mitsubishi engines?

I had a coworker who drove an early 90's Excel 5-sp. It was loud
and horribly underpowered. Other than that, it ran fine.

 

[MN]

Wasn't that back when they used Mitsubishi engines?
I had a coworker who drove an early 90's Excel 5-sp. It was loud
and horribly underpowered. Other than that, it ran fine.

The 1990 was all Hyundai.

Yup, it was/is loud and horribly underpowered!

If you ran it on thin synthetic, semi-synthetic oil,
like I did, it helped a bit with the lack of power issue.
Also, mine is a 4speed, not 5speed manual, with
somewhat better gearing for power.

I can't imagine driving it anywhere else but the city,
though.

MN

 

[Hallraker]

As for the other stuff, I think you've already figured out that's
he's got some fixation on you for various posts you've made on
other newsgroups.

Reading that statement brings to mind the "wall of photos" scene in the
movie "One Hour Photo." I have this image in my mind of our wonderful
"doctor" with all of amanda's posts plastered all over his wall... Fixation
indeed.

-Matt

 

[Hallraker]

Hi,

Yes, Hyundai's come a long way, but my gut feeling on this kind of stuff
is you can learn things by looking at the warranties of the "best"
models in a class, e.g. Toyotas and Hondas, then compare them to those
of the "lesser" models. For example, if Toyota or Honda offers 36
mos/36k miles, and somebody else is offering 100k miles, it's an
indication they're still not "there" and need the extra warranty
coverage as an incentive to get people to buy the lesser vehicle.
(Notice the extra long warranties are almost always on cars that have
developed a reputation for being problematic? Including Mitsubishi, VW,
Hyundai...)

A friend has a Sonata, and really loves the fact it's got the 100k mile
warranty. The warranty's kept her overall cost out of pocket very low
for repairs. OTOH, it's cost Hyundai a LOT to keep her car running for
80k+ miles (including but not limited to new trans, seats,
brakes--something serious, not just a wear item-- and constant "little"
stuff), and then there are the all too frequent trips to the Hyundai
store for all that! Compared to Toyotas and Hondas I've known, the
Hyundai's still pretty unreliable. But maybe they're learning from all
the warranty claims. I just don't like being the guinea pig.

Opinions will vary, of course...

I've also heard they've made great progress in recent years. Still, I'll
stick with the Japanese cars until I'm convinced otherwise...

I'll admit to not having checked on the warranties in some time, but I seem
to remember them being only 100k powertrain warranties. The bumper to
bumper that everyone is most familiar with, is the same 3 year/36k that
everyone else has. IIRC, of course. If that's the case, you're not really
gaining anything IMO, because the powertrain of any modern vehicle really
should last at least 100k, even my friend's Cavalier abomination got that
far before the engine at itself. But prior to that, the interior and
exterior mechanical bits - the ones NOT covered under a powertrain-only
warranty, were breaking like mad. Granted, that was a GM and not a Hyundai,
but I've seen similar longevity from a lot of vehicles. If they made that
warranty 200k, then I'd be interested.

-Matt

 

[Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik]

Reading that statement brings to mind the "wall of photos" scene in the
movie "One Hour Photo." I have this image in my mind of our wonderful
"doctor" with all of amanda's posts plastered all over his wall...
Fixation
indeed

Fixation my ass, she is nothing more than a ILLEGAL ALIEN that has
overstayed her visa. This shitbag has BOASTED about that in other forums and
helps others to do the same thing.
Read what this yeast infection has posted, her SISTER is going to buy the
car...why..because she(Amanda in Central California) is hiding.She depends
on all her relatives because she is a criminal. Her RELATIVES are going to
insure the car for her.
What will she do if involved in an accident? bail out of the wreck and run
for her friends? YOU BET!
This is not a "Fixation" I am just sick and tired of these "Leech on
Society" type assholes like her.We all pay for these assholes.
I have printed it all out, dropped it off at the local INS office. Where
there is smoke, there is fire.....will make sure the IRS gets wind of this
too. You think she and the relatives are "Clean" I seriously doubt it. Once
again her big mouth gets her into shit, I am sure its not the first time.
Shitbag (Amanda posting thru google) is EASY to track on the Internet, once
again her mouth is her worst enemy. As she posts it, I print it and drop it
off at the INS.
Each time she posts, she drops her IP address. The INS can work with this
nicely. She OPENLY ADMITS to breaking the INS laws!!
This bitch is STUMP STUPID. It may take a while, wont happen overnight..but
shes going to sink the entire family hahahaha.

 

[nothermark]

I've also heard they've made great progress in recent years. Still, I'll
stick with the Japanese cars until I'm convinced otherwise...

I'll admit to not having checked on the warranties in some time, but I seem
to remember them being only 100k powertrain warranties. The bumper to
bumper that everyone is most familiar with, is the same 3 year/36k that
everyone else has. IIRC, of course. If that's the case, you're not really
gaining anything IMO, because the powertrain of any modern vehicle really
should last at least 100k, even my friend's Cavalier abomination got that
far before the engine at itself. But prior to that, the interior and
exterior mechanical bits - the ones NOT covered under a powertrain-only
warranty, were breaking like mad. Granted, that was a GM and not a Hyundai,
but I've seen similar longevity from a lot of vehicles. If they made that
warranty 200k, then I'd be interested.

-Matt

Check again - Hyundai and Kia (made by Hyundai) are running 100K on
the drive train and 60K bumper to bumper. I think suzuki may be
slightly better now as they have all figured out that it is cheap
advertising. One of the best value vehicles I have owned is a 99
Accent. I bought it to do sevice work and have around 87K on it with
minimal problems. So far it has been maintenance items, a flex pipe
after 60K, recently a $5 alternator bracket and a couple of brake
calipers (needed one, replaced both). Right now I'm debating driving
it until it dies vs trading it in on a new Accent. $12,000 for the
car against $40,000 in chargeable milage. (Yes, I understand the
other costs but they are about the same or higher.)

 

[amanda992004]

Fixation my ass, she is nothing more than a ILLEGAL ALIEN that has
overstayed her visa.

Stupid idiot, I didn't overstay my visa. Becase of a new legislation
that came out giving people like me residence status for certain
purposes without US residency card, I mistakenly didn't apply for
what's called one year Optional Practical Training visa at Int'l
Student Office when I was about to graduate (in order to continue on
student visa when I move dto another state and enroll in another school
after taking a break). But, between my visa type being student visa
(which what you stupid idiot doesn't know is that it doesn't have a
specific date of expiration like visit visa, etc. and hence I didn't
get automatic barring penalty) and having a Master's degree, I simply
took a teaching job at a college and obtained professional work visa
type known as H1. Then I decided to apply for residency now via
Adjustment Of Status (AOS refers to applying for residency while living
inside US).

I told you not to try to understand such thing since your intelligence
level is sub-human. See whether you can abosrb the info I provided. Go
do what you are good at: read others' posts obsessively since you have
no life (and then claim that you are not having a fixation.)

I am NOT reading that rest of your crap but my eyes fell onto a couple
of sentence below. What you idiot doesn't know is that my OLDEST
control-freak sister controls family properties (yes, that's my money
too but I have the wrong birth order which is important in our Asian
culture) and she is buying me a car with my father's money stupid
idiot.

You are such a loser. Go die.

I apologise the people at this ng for unrelated topic.

 

[Carl 1 Lucky Texan]

You bring up another point - seems like Hyundai keeps their parts very
affordable compared to japanese cars.

Carl

 

[lkreh]

I have good news. You can justify your reason for existence by a
thousand-fold.

-LK

 

[amanda992004]

I can't imagine driving it anywhere else but the city,
though.

Are you saying that you never made out of town trips with this Hynudai
and only drove it in the city. Gee, previosuly, you said "The
"crappy" little Hyundai Excel has so far been the most reliable car I
have owned. What a joke! Either I must be very very lucky or these
cars were not that bad after all. ", sounding like anyone who bought
anything other than Hyundai was commiting a sin.

When I was looking at Hyundai - I did because I didn't want to just say
"no" since the Hyundia place was just around the corner of Subaru - I
asked the HP of V6. It was 2005. No wonder it was cheap. I look at
carsdirect.com for all the Hyundai V6 of 2006 and the one with decent
HP is not that cheap.

 

[Tom Reingold]

Wasn't that back when they used Mitsubishi engines?

I had a coworker who drove an early 90's Excel 5-sp. It was loud
and horribly underpowered. Other than that, it ran fine.

The Excel was awful. It burned oil excessively before it hit many miles.

I admit I am prejudiced against Korean cars, but they have probably
improved a lot. I haven't read anything bad about them lately.

I own a Daewoo (another Korean company) DVD player and several Daewoo
air conditioners. I am totally satisfied with the DVD player and I am
ecstatic about the air conditioners. I don't know if this indicates
anything about their cars, so take it for whatever it's worth.

Tom

 

[Woodcrafter Fred]

The person who was supposed to do the haggling on my behalf (for 2005
Subary Legacy) was persuading me to get Hyundai.

Don't question the above logic as
they were DOING YOU A BIG
FAVOR and you did not realize it.

My wife and I took possession of a 2004 OBW with
the Eddie Bauer package. We thought that we were
going to be getting a superiour crafted automobile
when we purchased a Subaru as a first-time Subaru
buyer / customer.

We quickly learned just how 'good' a company
Subaru of America and their parent Fuji Heavy
Industries really is and how they stand behind their products...

In a year's time we've had 3 cases where the engine
would QUIT without warning. Dead stop. No igniton
spark. No action when the key is turned. No dashboard
lamps. Interiour lamps work but nothing else.

We've had the car back three times to the Dealer.
All they did was change parts like the ECM, the
Battery cables, The alternator and the Master Fuse.
Did not matter if it was hot or cold outside or if
the engine was running 5 minutes or 5 hours.
If you waited 10 minutes however the engine would
start and run ok like nothing was wrong. Go on your
way and a few months later, it happens again, back to
the Dealer Service (Warranty) and same problem.

Calling Subaru of America HQ was no help.
Their whole attitude was 1) Work with your
Dealer, and 2) "UFO" [U. F-----g Own it]

Fed uo with Subaru's BS and completely
incompetent "Dealer Service" service, we
traded the OBW in on a 2005 Nissan Murano
and have had ZERO problems. (plus Nissan
gave us $4200 cash back (!) as a trade-in
differential !!)

Don't discount that offer to buy a Hyundai
so fast dear friend. Take a look at the Santa Fe
which looks like a great mini-SUV.

There is no doubt in my mind also that Hyundai
and Nissan will treat you much better that those
bastard JACKA--ES at Subaru also. Is it any
wonder that Subaru has the LOWEST customer
overall satisfaction rating for any of the Japanese
automakers per Consumer Reports ?

We sure know why and can attest to the same.
Buy a Subaru and get the WORST of Detroit
on the "bad old days" of the 70's as a flashback....

When it happened the 4th time

 

[Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik]

The person who was supposed to do the haggling on my behalf (for 2005
Subary Legacy) was persuading me to get Hyundai.

Don't question the above logic as
they were DOING YOU A BIG
FAVOR and you did not realize it.

My wife and I took possession of a 2004 OBW with
the Eddie Bowser package. We thought that we were
going to be getting a superiour crafted automobile
when we purchased a Subaru as a first-time Subaru
buyer / customer.

We quickly learned just how 'good' a company
Subaru of America and their parent Fuji Heavy
Industries really is and how they REALLY stand behind their products...

In a year's time we've had 3 cases where the engine
would QUIT without warning. Dead stop. No igniton
spark. No action when the key is turned. No dashboard
lamps. Interiour lamps work but nothing else.

We've had the car back three times to the Dealer.
All they did was change parts like the ECM, the
Battery cables, The alternator and the Master Fuse.
Did not matter if it was hot or cold outside or if
the engine was running 5 minutes or 5 hours.
If you waited 10 minutes however the engine would
start and run ok like nothing was wrong. Go on your
way and a few months later, it happens again, back to
the Dealer Service (Warranty) and same problem.

Calling Subaru of America HQ was no help.
Their whole attitude was 1) Work with your
Dealer, and 2) "UFO" [U. F-----g Own it]

Fed up with Subaru's Bullshit and completely
incompetent "Dealer Service" service, we
traded the OBW in on a 2005 Nissan Murano
and have had ZERO problems. (plus Nissan
gave us $4200 cash back (!) as a trade-in
differential !!)

Don't discount that offer to buy a Hyundai
so fast Asian Dipshit. Take a look at the Santa Fe
which looks like a great mini-SUV.

There is no doubt in my mind also that Hyundai
and Nissan will treat you much better that those
bastard JACKASSES at Subaru also. Is it any
wonder that Subaru has the LOWEST customer
overall satisfaction rating for any of the Japanese
automakers per Consumer Reports ?

We sure know why and can attest to the same.
Buy a Subaru and get the WORST of Japan

SHHHHH...let her buy one she DESERVES IT. Would serve her right for
wasteing everyone's time on Usenet.
This way she can show them who's boss hahaha....she can haggle with them
each time it breaks down, the car fits her....she needs a Subaru

 

[Rick Courtright]

I apologise the people at this ng for unrelated topic.

Amanda,

Get a clue!

Instead of apologizing to us, quit following up this crap! Dr. Rasty's
been known as a problem child here for a long time, and any effort spent
answering him is wasted. Combine that with the fact that many of us just
aren't interested in your little behind the scenes soap operas, and it's
no problem to lump you in the same category as Rasty...

We've been nice. But that could change rapidly. Knock it off!

Rick

 

[Carl 1 Lucky Texan]

Maybe they are the SAME PERSON!

Carl

Amanda,

Get a clue!

Instead of apologizing to us, quit following up this crap! Dr. Rasty's
been known as a problem child here for a long time, and any effort spent
answering him is wasted. Combine that with the fact that many of us just
aren't interested in your little behind the scenes soap operas, and it's
no problem to lump you in the same category as Rasty...

We've been nice. But that could change rapidly. Knock it off!

Rick

 

[amanda992004]

Woodcrafter Fred wrote:

Thanks for the info.

If I only care about reliability, I would probably go with Honda.

I looked (online) at 2006 Hyundai V6 (and other comparable features to
GT). They are not that cheap either.

 

[amanda992004]

Maybe they are the SAME PERSON!

Rick is patronizing and you are getting delusional.

 

[amanda992004]

she can haggle with them each time it breaks down, the car fits her....she needs a Subaru

Subaru? You can't even keep your thoughts consistent. Give it up.