02/03 Impreza headlights hazing up ... PLEASE read

[Hallraker]

hey I loved my '87 fiero GT w/ 5sp and T-tops. Now that was a sexy car

Never said it wasn't sexy. Actually when I was a kid I thought the
Fiero was a very cool car. It was one of the cars I looked at for my first
car, but I'd heard reports of engine compartment fires and even witnessed
one myself.

-Matt

 

[Henry Paul]

Yeah so what's with all those Fiero engine compartment fires?

lol

 

[Rudy]

Dear HALF-WITS !
If you are talking about the SUBARU Impreza..THERE IS NO NEED TO CROSSPOST
THIS DRIVEL to EIGHT UNINTERESTED other car brand newsgroups

 

[Bruce L. Bergman]

Dear HALF-WITS !
If you are talking about the SUBARU Impreza..THERE IS NO NEED TO CROSSPOST
THIS DRIVEL to EIGHT UNINTERESTED other car brand newsgroups

Sure there is! They posted flame-bait to multiple antipathetic
groups (people who naturally would have a hard time getting along) to
see if anyone would react, and you swallowed the hook, line, sinker,
and are currently towing their boat across the lake for free. ;-)

And since you can count to eight, you knew it was a massive
crosspost before you responded. Words to the wise: Next time, don't
get pissed and give them the satisfaction of reacting. That's exactly
what they wanted.

Just mark all messages read (or ignore the whole thread), put the
original poster in your twit-filters so if they try it again you won't
see it, and move on. Pretty much everyone else did.

Sheesh. Usenet Noobies, it must be September again and school is
back in session... ;-P

--<< Bruce >>--

 

[Tegger®]

Dear HALF-WITS !
If you are talking about the SUBARU Impreza..THERE IS NO NEED TO
CROSSPOST THIS DRIVEL to EIGHT UNINTERESTED other car brand
newsgroups

So how come YOU DID *JUST THAT*? For a NetKop,you're not even a smart one.

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[Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik]

Yeah so what's with all those Fiero engine compartment fires?

The 4 cyl Fieros didn't have the problem, but the 6 cyl did. Was caused by
heat trapped inside the engine compartment, causing the fuel to expand and
boil out of the vent on the carb. The resulting fuel would give the engine a
bath and result in a flash fire, usually within minutes after the car had
been parked.The hotter the outside temp, the better the chances were for
fire.
Since the car was mostly fibreglass and plastic they burned HOT, fast and
very well. Usually totally destroyed by the time the fire dept got there.

 

[roger]

Yeah, you can also have my address for the bagels----'84 GL wagon,
300,104 miles. Gonna use the bagels for what they are intended, new
wheels for my Delta tablesaw! *Sigh*
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[Spinifex]

HEY !!!

Some of us may actually take offence at you calling this wanker a
faggot.... even faggots are car enthusiasts and Subaru owners

Anon

 

[Dr. Rastis Fafoofnik]

HEY !!!

Some of us may actually take offence at you calling this wanker a
faggot.... even faggots are car enthusiasts and Subaru owners

Thats funny! I like it.

 

[L. Kreh]

Steve: I usually resist the urge to respond to absurd messages, but
I'm feeling weak today. You wrote, "I'm not looking forward to the
outrageous cost of replacement headlights as I planned(?) to keep this
Sube for a long time but now I have to reconsider that decision."
You're planning to sell your car b/c the headlight lens cover is
foggy??? If you decide apply anything to this headlight problem, I
suggest applying some perspective. Give us a break. Also, I, for
one, am not going to complain to Subaru or anyone else simply b/c
*you* can't get full satisfaction with a very minor problem.

 

[Henry Paul]

If the factory part had major issues like that and the warranty and dealer
wouldn't help, then I would look for an aftermarket solution myself.

 

[Steve]

I can find no aftermarket headlight solution other than "projector" style. If
there was a third party replacement I'd look into it.

 

[Henry Paul]

Could you get a plastics shop to fabricate one for you? I have this done all
the time with sheet metal and what not. I have not tried it with plastic
though.

 

[Steve]

Steve: I usually resist the urge to respond to absurd messages, but
I'm feeling weak today. You wrote, "I'm not looking forward to the
outrageous cost of replacement headlights as I planned(?) to keep this
Sube for a long time but now I have to reconsider that decision."
You're planning to sell your car b/c the headlight lens cover is
foggy??? If you decide apply anything to this headlight problem, I
suggest applying some perspective.

While Subaru's refusal to stand behind this headlight problem it gives me cause
to question their willingness to stand behind the car on other issues. While
this headlight problem isn't a monumental problem I'm beginning to wonder about
the MANY complaints I read in newsgroups, in Subaru forums, and at consumer web
sites where Subaru owner's are having repairs denied under warranty very
frequently.

I planned to keep this car a long time. It replaced a 95 Plymouth Neon that has
142,000 miles on it that still runs strong. I purchased the factory Subaru Gold
7year/100k mile extended warranty. I'm having second thoughts about how Subaru
will honor the warranty and If I'll have to fight for warranty repairs. Rather
than go deeper into a major disappointment I can cash in the warranty and move
to another brand car where the manufacturer might think they exist for their
customer and not the other way around.

Just mulling over my options ... you mull over yours and make your own
decisions, IF you own the car in question and IF you are having the headlight
hazing problem and IF you think it should be covered under warranty (and
warranty was denied) and IF you want to do something about it.

Give us a break.

Here's your break ... can you feel it?

Also, I, for one, am not going to complain to Subaru or anyone else simply b/c
*you* can't get full satisfaction with a very minor problem.

I'm not asking ANYONE to complain on my behalf. IF you own the car in question
and IF you are having the headlight hazing problem and IF you think it should
be covered under warranty (and warranty was denied) and IF you want to do
something about it I posted two suggestions.

It's not that I'm getting "FULL" satisfaction from Subaru but rather NONE at
all.

 

[Steve]

Could you get a plastics shop to fabricate one for you? I have this done all
the time with sheet metal and what not. I have not tried it with plastic
though.

I'm sure that custom lenses and then finding a way to seal them to the assembly
would end up costing more than Subaru headlights. The lenses are contoured, not
flat.

Point is, I shouldn't have to do anything other than make an appointment at the
Subaru dealer.

 

[Henry Paul]

Well, custom lenses that last the life of the car could be cheaper than
buying new lenses 2 or 3 more times.

It's a shame the dealer won't go to bat for you after the money you have
spent. That's one reason why I don't buy new cars aside from not having the
money in the first place!

 

[Henry Paul]

Will the lenses get too bad to pass safety inspection before the warranty is
up? If I were in your position I would consider taking legal action and
press for a recall.

I completely agree with you. It is ridiculous for a part that can have an
impact upon the safe operation of the vehicle to not be covered by a
warranty or a recall situation. What if you were to get into an accident due
to reduced visibility conditions due to the lenses? I'm sure you could find
an accident lawyer to eat that one up, but is that what it will take to get
something to happen?

 

[L C]

You can pick up some used light assy's for around $100.

When I took mine apart to paint the insides, I got a little haze but not
much.

 

[Spinifex]

why has nobody suggested, or commented on, the idea of getting GLASS
lenses made to suit... problem gone

i guess the cost would be prohibitive, initially..... but over the
course of the lifespan of the vehicle, would probably be cheaper, not to
mention safer, than replacing plastic lenses or entire assemblies as
often as posters seem to be complaining about

Spinifex

 

[Cam Penner]

why has nobody suggested, or commented on, the idea of getting GLASS
lenses made to suit... problem gone

i guess the cost would be prohibitive, initially..... but over the
course of the lifespan of the vehicle, would probably be cheaper, not to
mention safer, than replacing plastic lenses or entire assemblies as
often as posters seem to be complaining about

Of course, the replacement cost when struck by a rock would
require a plastic lens protector added to the front, which
would have to be replaced when it started to yellow and
haze....

I think the poster that commented on the use of ammonia
based cleaners may be on to something. My lenses are not
hazing, but as a motorcycle owner, I know better than to
clean plastic windscreens and headlights with Windex type
cleaners.