FIGHT eBay's HORRIBLE Price Increases - Meg MUST RESIGN!

[Jeff Rife]

Invid Fan ((e-mail address removed)) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

From what I've seen on Ebay, this is probably a reaction to sellers
listing products at a rediculously low price and making all the profit
from the shipping cost. Not unusual to see a buy now price of $1 and
$10 in shipping fees, of which Ebay gets nothing.

The new fee structure would make that happen even more often, not less.
Any time the eBay fees go up, sellers will raise their shipping costs to
compensate. It's the one place you can guarantee a fixed payment (assuming
your item sells at all).

 

[TravelinMan]

Paul McCahan ((e-mail address removed)) wrote in alt.video.ptv.tivo:

As of today, eBay has 129,000 different stores listed, and that page shows 29
as "leaving". That's 0.022% of the total...not very significant.

Depends on what percentage of the leaving stores actually found and
signed the petition.

But, no, it's not likely to put eBay out of business. It will more
likely impact people like me - who occasionally sell a few items rather
than send them to Goodwill. If eBay's keeping 22% of the selling price,
why should I go through the hassle of selling?

 

[Paul McCahan]

As of today, eBay has 129,000 different stores listed, and that page shows 29
as "leaving". That's 0.022% of the total...not very significant.

yes, but that's an upstart website, alive for only a few days - the real
numbers are here:

Posted by webnet ( 8990 ) on Jan-12-05 at 19:40:27 PST Auctions AMAZING.
NOW since the last post at 19:26 stores 132,050 now its only 131,975 a
loss of 75 stores closed in the last 20 minutes. I will check again in
the morning to see how bad ebay has damaged themselves. AMAZING...
sellers SPEAK OUT.

I checked the number of stores earlier and found 5,180 pages of them
(@ 25 stores per page), hence the current count at 'about' 129,500.

To check the number do an advanced search, click on stores, search
with 'no' keyword entries, then click on list alphabetically ...... on
the results page scroll to the bottom and check the number of pages.
Multiply by 25.

 

[Mike]

No, the seller will just raise the price to $11. What part of this do
you not understand?

The part you apparently don't understand is that the price is set by the
market - not by the seller alone.[/QUOTE]

Right, and the cost of bringing the goods to the market just went up.
Everyone else selling the same goods will also raise their prices.
Their only other option is to absorb the loss. Do you *really* think
many are going to do that?

The part that you don't seem to understand is that the seller will raise
his price to cover his costs.

I can't believe you don't understand this. When costs go up, sellers
raise prices. It has always been thus.

There is more to the "market price" than the cost of the goods alone.
There are other expenses and factors to consider. This is a prime
example.

Mike

 

[Tim Smith]

Right, and the cost of bringing the goods to the market just went up.
Everyone else selling the same goods will also raise their prices. Their
only other option is to absorb the loss. Do you *really* think many are
going to do that?

The part that you don't seem to understand is that the seller will raise
his price to cover his costs.

I can't believe you don't understand this. When costs go up, sellers
raise prices. It has always been thus.

There is more to the "market price" than the cost of the goods alone.
There are other expenses and factors to consider. This is a prime
example.

That's fine for "buy it now" prices, but I believe most people are talking
about auctions.

 

[Timberwoof]

Depends on what percentage of the leaving stores actually found and
signed the petition.

But, no, it's not likely to put eBay out of business. It will more
likely impact people like me - who occasionally sell a few items rather
than send them to Goodwill. If eBay's keeping 22% of the selling price,
why should I go through the hassle of selling?

Where did you get 22%?

 

[Tim Adams]

The part you apparently don't understand is that the price is set by the
market - not by the seller alone.

Right, and the cost of bringing the goods to the market just went up.
Everyone else selling the same goods will also raise their prices.
Their only other option is to absorb the loss. Do you *really* think
many are going to do that?[/QUOTE]

You apparently think ebay is the only place people can buy stuff.

The part that you don't seem to understand is that the seller will raise
his price to cover his costs.

But if his prices are already as close to what somebody can buy the item
for elsewhere, and he raises it - he looses the sales.

I can't believe you don't understand this. When costs go up, sellers
raise prices. It has always been thus.

I can't believe that you think raising cost is such a 'cure all'.
especially when, as I mentioned above, ebay isn't the only place to buy
stuff.

 

[TravelinMan]

yes, but that's an upstart website, alive for only a few days - the real
numbers are here:

Posted by webnet ( 8990 ) on Jan-12-05 at 19:40:27 PST Auctions AMAZING.
NOW since the last post at 19:26 stores 132,050 now its only 131,975 a
loss of 75 stores closed in the last 20 minutes. I will check again in
the morning to see how bad ebay has damaged themselves. AMAZING...
sellers SPEAK OUT.

I checked the number of stores earlier and found 5,180 pages of them
(@ 25 stores per page), hence the current count at 'about' 129,500.

To check the number do an advanced search, click on stores, search
with 'no' keyword entries, then click on list alphabetically ...... on
the results page scroll to the bottom and check the number of pages.
Multiply by 25.

Not to defend eBay, but I don't think your interpretation makes sense.

The price increase doesn't take effect until February. Why would the
stores shut down now? Why not continue selling until the change occurs?
And if they currently have auctions running, it would be even more
foolish to shut down - at least until the auctions finish.

 

[TravelinMan]

The part you apparently don't understand is that the price is set by the
market - not by the seller alone.

Right, and the cost of bringing the goods to the market just went up.
Everyone else selling the same goods will also raise their prices.
Their only other option is to absorb the loss. Do you *really* think
many are going to do that?[/QUOTE]

That makes sense - IF eBay is the only route to market.

Hint: it isn't. And the other routes to market haven't had this amount
of a price increase.

The part that you don't seem to understand is that the seller will raise
his price to cover his costs.

I can't believe you don't understand this. When costs go up, sellers
raise prices. It has always been thus.

Of course, only eBay sellers have had this increase. Other routes to
market have not.

There is more to the "market price" than the cost of the goods alone.
There are other expenses and factors to consider. This is a prime
example.

There are also competitive routes to market. eBay sellers have just been
placed at a _relative_ disadvantage (compared to where they were before).

 

[Timberwoof]

That makes sense - IF eBay is the only route to market.

Hint: it isn't. And the other routes to market haven't had this amount
of a price increase.


Of course, only eBay sellers have had this increase. Other routes to
market have not.


There are also competitive routes to market. eBay sellers have just been
placed at a _relative_ disadvantage (compared to where they were before).

What other online auction sites are there? I know of two. They're not nearly the
size of eBay. I suppose someone could make the case that eBay is engaging in
monopolistic practices.

 

[TravelinMan]

What other online auction sites are there? I know of two. They're not nearly
the
size of eBay. I suppose someone could make the case that eBay is engaging in
monopolistic practices.

Possibly, but difficult.

eBay sellers have to compete with Walmart, the Dollar Store, Amazon, and
the entire rest of the economy. That's why a price increase hits them
hard. As it is, I buy something on eBay if it's less expensive than
other sources. Usually it is, but only by a little. If the seller tries
to increase the price by enough to make up for eBay's increased fees, it
will probably make their products more expensive than the alternatives -
or at least not enough savings to make up for the hassle.

 

[jason b]

Yahoo won't matter, it's probably cheaper, and soon MUCH cheaper,
problem is, if you don't have a market ----- your stuff won't sell.

eBay has you LOCKED in. When you add PayPal into the mix, they make it
near impossible to sell on the other Auction sites. That's the PROBLEM.

Join the PROTEST:

http://www.nolistingday.com

Sign the Petition!

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?ebayfee

You're an idiot, take your petition somwhere else,



jason


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[Rob Munach]

Meh, I find Ebay rather pointless for most stuff anyway. People bid stuff up
to at least discount retail and then pay double the shipping costs. Unless
its last years stuff, there are few deals to be found on ebay.

For sure. However, I have gotten some pretty good deals at times as well.

 

[Gregory L. Hansen]

If you haven't heard, eBay is increasing prices from 40% to 400%

It no longer makes sense to use eBay to buy or sell items...

This is SAD since it's a system many people enjoy using...

This SCAM by Meg and the EVIL management MUST BE STOPPED.

Here's the problem (Story broke on Jan 12th)

http://www.nolistingday.com/

Sign here:

http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?ebayfee&1

Thanks, and do not list, buy or sell on Feb 18th.

Vote with your dollars. If the prices get too high, don't buy stuff from
them.

 

[Chris Phillipo]

You apparently think ebay is the only place people can buy stuff.


But if his prices are already as close to what somebody can buy the item
for elsewhere, and he raises it - he looses the sales.

No, that's not how it works. When someone has something used to sell
what's the first thing they do. Check how much it goes for on ebay and
set the price accordingly.

 

[Chris Phillipo]

Not to defend eBay, but I don't think your interpretation makes sense.

The price increase doesn't take effect until February. Why would the
stores shut down now? Why not continue selling until the change occurs?
And if they currently have auctions running, it would be even more
foolish to shut down - at least until the auctions finish.

Maybe that's why there are only 29 so far?

 

[TravelinMan]

No, that's not how it works. When someone has something used to sell
what's the first thing they do. Check how much it goes for on ebay and
set the price accordingly.

NO kidding?

So Walmart sets their prices by going to eBay to see what items are
selling for?

Wow. YOu learn something new every day.

 

[TravelinMan]

Maybe that's why there are only 29 so far?

Could be. I was thinking of setting up an eBay store for a business I
know of, but might reconsider with the higher fees.

 

[Chris Phillipo]

NO kidding?

So Walmart sets their prices by going to eBay to see what items are
selling for?

Wow. YOu learn something new every day.

Teach me oh great one, what used items does Walmart sell?

 

[Chris Phillipo]

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Could be. I was thinking of setting up an eBay store for a business I
know of, but might reconsider with the higher fees.

I wouldn't bother, besides the high prices they have all sorts of other
rules like you can't have a link to your own web site if it also has
items for sale on it.