Tire question

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I'm buying a 2005 Forester X and spoke to the dealer about trading in the
Geolanders for a set of Michelins. I've seen some really good websites that
rate and review tires on the newsgroup in the past but for the life of me
cannot find any good ones. Could you please post any good sites you may
have, thanx in advance.
 
I will add my experiences. I've got a 1998 Forester and have had
several sets of tires over the years. As I live in the far north on
New York, I have always run summer tires and winter tires.

Based on the comments from Tire Rack, I switched from Dunlop 60's to
Michelin HydroEdge (XTS, or some such). This despite their $90 cost.
I've been thrilled ! They handily outperform the Dunlops and those did
better than the Geolanders. They're more comfortable and handle much
quicker.

One person, one opinion. Take it as you wish.

Philip
 
Thanx, actually I've already decided on the HydroEdge, glad to see another
good comment on them.
 
Rhesus said:
Thanx, actually I've already decided on the HydroEdge, glad to see another
good comment on them.

Personally I believe Michelin carries an unjustified premium compared
to Bridgestone, Dunlop, Pirelli, Continental, Yokohama, etc. Michelin
does make good tires though. I've used their bicycle tires for years.

You guys should have seen a thread on alt.autos.toyota. Many of the
posters seem to inject their political feelings into their posts. One
reply to a question about Michelins rapidly devolved into a series of
anti-French diatribes. The nastiest likened buying any product from
a French company (like Michelin) to supporting terrorists. :-(
 
y_p_w said:
Personally I believe Michelin carries an unjustified premium compared
to Bridgestone, Dunlop, Pirelli, Continental, Yokohama, etc. Michelin
does make good tires though. I've used their bicycle tires for years.

You guys should have seen a thread on alt.autos.toyota. Many of the
posters seem to inject their political feelings into their posts. One
reply to a question about Michelins rapidly devolved into a series of
anti-French diatribes. The nastiest likened buying any product from
a French company (like Michelin) to supporting terrorists. :-(

stupid idiot do that
more stupid than terrorist
 
"The nastiest likened buying any product from a French company (like
Michelin) to supporting terrorists."
No, voting for John Kerry is like supporting the terrorists :)
 
jacques.dietrich said:
stupid idiot do that
more stupid than terrorist


Here's the thread I was referring to. Have a good laugh.

<http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...3m28h1pfajj66d8vasl5m4brpfu%404ax.com&rnum=2>

Again - I'm eventually going to look for replacements for the stock
Bridgestone Potenza RE92 (oh the horror) tires on my 2004 WRX, and
am thinking Continental ContiExtremeContact or Pirelli PZero Nero M+S.
The closest Michelin equivalent is about $30 (US) more per tire.
 
jacques.dietrich said:
stupid idiot do that
more stupid than terrorist


Here's the thread I was referring to. Have a good laugh.

<http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...3m28h1pfajj66d8vasl5m4brpfu%404ax.com&rnum=2>

Again - I'm eventually going to look for replacements for the stock
Bridgestone Potenza RE92 (oh the horror) tires on my 2004 WRX, and
am thinking Continental ContiExtremeContact or Pirelli PZero Nero M+S.
The closest Michelin equivalent is about $30 (US) more per tire.
 
jacques.dietrich said:
stupid idiot do that
more stupid than terrorist


Here's the thread I was referring to. Have a good laugh.

<http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=...3m28h1pfajj66d8vasl5m4brpfu%404ax.com&rnum=2>

Again - I'm eventually going to look for replacements for the stock
Bridgestone Potenza RE92 (oh the horror) tires on my 2004 WRX, and
am thinking Continental ContiExtremeContact or Pirelli PZero Nero M+S.
The closest Michelin equivalent is about $30 (US) more per tire.
 
Actually, John Kerry is a pretty good guy and he reads too, which means he
actually thinks before he acts.

I understand he is on a waiting list for the Ford Hybrid. I tend to think he
should have gone for the Prius, but that was not politically possible. I see
the Ford Hybrid as a PR gimmick. I will be interested to see how many they
really sell. They are getting a lot of press for a car that can't be
purchased yet.

I wonder if Subaru will come out with a Hybrid. As gas prices rise and they
only can go up considering that there is limited supply and increasing
demand, the Subaru 25 ish miles to the gallon will not cut it. I almost went
for a Prius, if I only could have had one in a reasonable amount of time,
instead of buying a Subaru.
 
Completely off topic:
Kerry has a bunch of SUVs (which he was proud of when speaking in MI but
denied owning later... said they were his families) and is ferried
around in an armored limo surrounded by an armored entourage... Him
buying a hybrid is pure political BS and only a jackass would let
something that stupid influence them. The man doesn't support our
troops but supported the war (and still does... said he would have
attacked Iraq knowing what he knows now), admitted war criminal
(http://hnn.us/articles/3552
" SEN. KERRY: There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say
that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of
other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free
fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50
calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which
were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy
missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the
laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and
all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the
government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that
the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the
men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I
think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law
that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals."), he lied under oath
(stating that he was in Cambodia during christmas now changing his
story), he wants to raise taxes, etc. He's an extreme liberal running
as a moderate and running on a 4 month, 11 day war record instead of a
20 year political career.

"John Kerry is a pretty good guy and he reads too, which means he
actually thinks before he acts."
He constantly flip flops which means he isn't reading enough.
 
y_p_w said:
anti-French diatribes. The nastiest likened buying any product from
a French company (like Michelin) to supporting terrorists. :-(

So is Michelin ~really~ a French company any more? Funny, my cars have
worn Michelins made in France, Germany, Italy and the US over the last
25+ years. I'm sure they have plants in countries elsewhere, as well.
Sounds pretty multi-national to me.

Rick
 
Louie Chevrolet was a transplanted Frenchman so is our top selling US made
car a French car??
 
Edward said:
Louie Chevrolet was a transplanted Frenchman so is our top selling US made
car a French car??

Apparently Michelin has two "Managing Partners": Edouard Michelin (a
descendent of the founder?) and René Zingraff. Sure it's multinational,
but the French roots are still there.

<http://www.michelin.com/corporate/f...rique=13&codePage=PG_EDOUARDMICHELIN&lang=EN>
<http://www.michelin.com/corporate/f...brique=13&codePage=PAG_RENE_ZINGRAFF&lang=EN>

If you're looking for a car that's free of French parts, then good luck.
More likely than not there some electronics or parts that were made or
designed in France. GM makes several 4/5-sp automatic transmission in
Strasbourg, France. If that disturbs you, don't buy a Cadillac CTS,
Range Rover, or numberous BMWs that use them. I've bought two set of
Dunlop SP Sport 9000 tires. They're made in France, but the brand was
part of Sumitomo Tire, and now seems to be part of Goodyear.

Frankly - I don't worry about politics when I'm discussing cars. If
I did, I wouldn't be driving.
 

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