Struck by leaky headgasket on `01 OBW

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Bradley Walker

Well it looks like it was a good thing I delayed my 90k service by a few
weeks. Last week I noticed that there was a brief 'sweet' smell coming
from the drivers side area under the hood. I noticed it once after driving
the car and then it seemingly went away. Well I got down on my knees and
noticed a few drips of oil and what looked like an oil slick covering my oil
pan. After having driven it a few more days, I noticed a few more drips
before the dripping stopped. In the end my dip stick levels dropped by 1/2.
After I put 1/2 a quart of oil back into it, the engine seemed to run
smoother, heck even my shifting was soft as a cloud.

Two days ago I took it in to the dealership for a regular $15 oil change,
and told them to look it over. They said that I've got a leaky headgasket
on the drivers side. Because of the increasing 'sweet' smell of radiator
fluid I'm assuming, I'm inclinded to believe that they are right about it
being a leaky headgasket. So now I'm glad I delayed the 90k & timing belt
replacement because they'd have to pull the engine out once more. The
quoted cost for the headgasket replacement by itself is $850. The
'standard' 90k service is $740, timing belt is $380, and now this would
bring it close to $2000. Howevre I plan on buying the parts in advance and
either getting a direct quote from them, or shopping 2 local indie mechanics
who are competent. The one lady (YES, lady mechanic) said she's worked on
Subies before, and has chilton reference manuals for anything she may run
into she's not run into before. Neighbors have went to her for lesser stuff
and come away happy. Her rate is only $35/hr.

What is the advice on running the vehicle till I get that taken care of next
week? The heat guage has NOT increased, nor has anything else happened to
indicate this outside of the sweet smell and oil leak. I do NOT plan on
taxing the engine or driving it more than absolutely nessecary. Besides oil
levels, what else should I be checking religiously until this is fixed??

Btw - Recommended headgasket to use? OEM or a higher performance one?

Brad
 
Bradley said:
Well it looks like it was a good thing I delayed my 90k service by a few
weeks. Last week I noticed that there was a brief 'sweet' smell coming
from the drivers side area under the hood. I noticed it once after driving
the car and then it seemingly went away. Well I got down on my knees and
noticed a few drips of oil and what looked like an oil slick covering my oil
pan. After having driven it a few more days, I noticed a few more drips
before the dripping stopped. In the end my dip stick levels dropped by 1/2.
After I put 1/2 a quart of oil back into it, the engine seemed to run
smoother, heck even my shifting was soft as a cloud.

Two days ago I took it in to the dealership for a regular $15 oil change,
and told them to look it over. They said that I've got a leaky headgasket
on the drivers side. Because of the increasing 'sweet' smell of radiator
fluid I'm assuming, I'm inclinded to believe that they are right about it
being a leaky headgasket. So now I'm glad I delayed the 90k & timing belt
replacement because they'd have to pull the engine out once more. The
quoted cost for the headgasket replacement by itself is $850. The
'standard' 90k service is $740, timing belt is $380, and now this would
bring it close to $2000. Howevre I plan on buying the parts in advance and
either getting a direct quote from them, or shopping 2 local indie mechanics
who are competent. The one lady (YES, lady mechanic) said she's worked on
Subies before, and has chilton reference manuals for anything she may run
into she's not run into before. Neighbors have went to her for lesser stuff
and come away happy. Her rate is only $35/hr.

What is the advice on running the vehicle till I get that taken care of next
week? The heat guage has NOT increased, nor has anything else happened to
indicate this outside of the sweet smell and oil leak. I do NOT plan on
taxing the engine or driving it more than absolutely nessecary. Besides oil
levels, what else should I be checking religiously until this is fixed??

Btw - Recommended headgasket to use? OEM or a higher performance one?

Brad

You might be able to use the OEM coolant system conditioner and solve
the problem.
Or, if you want the gaskets replaced, check your dealer parts prices
against the online OEM dealers like www.subarugenuineparts.com or
others. (Jamie is the contact there.)

Carl
 
Carl,

I'm already one step ahead of you. I'm pricing the parts at that website
(timing belt, waterpump, head gasket) are only costing me around $150.
Versus an estimated cost of around $275 at the dealership for the parts
alone.

As for the coolant system conditioner... whats the actual name of it? What
are the instructions for use? Right now I've noticed my leak has stopped
somewhat, but I still get a heavy aroma of sweet coolant smell on the
drivers side after driving.
 
Bradley said:
Carl,

I'm already one step ahead of you. I'm pricing the parts at that website
(timing belt, waterpump, head gasket) are only costing me around $150.
Versus an estimated cost of around $275 at the dealership for the parts
alone.

As for the coolant system conditioner... whats the actual name of it? What
are the instructions for use? Right now I've noticed my leak has stopped
somewhat, but I still get a heavy aroma of sweet coolant smell on the
drivers side after driving.

Someone may have the part number. It comes in all the new soobs now and
is often maligned as a 'patch' solution for bad gaskets. Wont work on
the internal leaks of the mid-late 90s, just the external weeping which
you apparently have. It apparently does work - but, if you can afford it
and some of the labor is being done anyway - replacing the gaskets is
preferable. probably still a good idea to install the conditioner/sealant.

Carl
 
I just had both of my head gaskets replaced at the dealership in California
for 1250.00 and Subaru of America is going to pay half of that at 127K.
Call and open a case with subaru and they may pay for the whole thing
providing you were part of the original coolant leak campaign.

Bill
 
How would I know I'm part of the orignial coolant leak campaign?? I
purchased the vehicle with 78,000 miles in January of `06.
 
This has been a problem for a while. If you look at Consumer Reports the
engine problems seem to stop in 2003.

I have a 2003 Forester which I bought in 2002. Has anyone had th is problm
with this model?

Tks much

Mel
 
Just a quick update, I contacted Subaru of America and was told that my
vehicle had the coolant treatment at the 48,000 mile interval. Because it
was treated, it qualifies for the warranty coverage upto 100,000 miles.
Being that I'm 10,000 miles shy, they are going to replace it under
warranty.
 

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