shifting

[WrxWagon06]

Hi
I got some trouble shifting or down-shifting in 1 gear when it's snowing or
when it's wet, is it related whit the awd ???
or it's a dealer issue

 

[David Betts]

I got some trouble shifting or down-shifting in 1 gear when it's snowing or
when it's wet, is it related whit the awd ???
or it's a dealer issue

Sounds like it's a driver issue to me ;-)>.

David Betts
(e-mail address removed)

 

[WrxWagon06]

It's really not my first subi and this one is a little bit rough on first
and the clutch is hi almost no friction point in mid.

 

[Tim Reeve]

Depends what you really mean. Shifting into 1st is always a little trickier
if the vehicle is still moving. On my Legacy and on our Loyale earlier, it
always took some 'convincing' to move in. On the upshift, this is not a
problem. If I remember correctly, 2nd through 5th use a synchromesh while
1st does not.
Cheers,
Tim

 

[Rick Courtright]

problem. If I remember correctly, 2nd through 5th use a synchromesh while
1st does not.

Hi,

My Loyale is synchro on all five, but 1st isn't exactly "in the pattern"
as far as being able to downshift easily. It's more like the synchro
allows a shift into first while the car's still rolling as opposed to
"crash box" style first gears that required the car to be motionless, or
the application of some skill with the clutch and throttle (true double
clutching, good rev-matching or whatever.)

Since the OP mentioned snow, my first thought was the gearbox is cold,
and the synchro's just not engaging easily. I'm sure most of us notice
the shifts get easier as things warm up. But when he added rain to the
equation, I lost that train of thought. So right now I've got nothing
solid... especially since he also mentioned the clutch grabs near the
top, so it sounds like he's got good disengagement.

Any chance the gearbox doesn't have the correct weight gear oil? Maybe a
switch to synthetic could help--many people claim it's helped them with
a variety of cars that had dino oil originally. OTOH, if a synthetic
came in the gearbox from the factory, a change to the wrong one COULD
have serious consequences: a friend had a GMC work truck that came with
factory synthetic, and had it changed at an independent shop when the
time came. The gearbox started shifting poorly immediately thereafter,
and within a coupla hundred miles had locked into one gear. He towed the
truck to a GMC dealer who explained the problem was GM had two part
numbers for the correct oil depending on which gearbox the truck
used--the gearbox serial number was required to get the proper oil part
number--and the shop used the wrong one. Cost them the price of a
gearbox rebuild! A buddy's big Ford truck--also factory filled w/
synthetic--has a tag on the gearbox specifying which oil to use, so I
guess this is a more common situation than I'd have thought.

And the upshift problem really throws some more confusion into the
picture. There's no "real" adjustment to speak of on the shift linkage
on my Loyale--has Subie changed that so perhaps there's an external
adjustment issue with the WRX? If nothing can be changed externally, it
sounds like maybe someone's gonna need to look inside the gearbox for a
bad shift fork and/or synchro. Dealer time?

Rick

 

[WrxWagon06]

Think am gone a go to the dealer see what going on , but my clutch doesn't
feel like a 10,000km it feel like 100,000km old car !!!
more news after they appointment

 

[Mark T.B. Carroll]

I got some trouble shifting or down-shifting in 1 gear when it's snowing or
when it's wet, is it related whit the awd ???
or it's a dealer issue

My STi is hard to downshift into first gear in, but I wonder if that's
partly because first is just so low a ratio in that car that second gear
is appropriate more often than would be normal in other cars? I have to
be going /really/ slowly before I can downshift into first. Mind you,
I've not had the car since new, so I've no idea how much the previous
owner might have abused the transmission: I can drive my STi smoothly,
but it takes a lot of care because it's the pickiest car I've ever
driven, including the old Fiat Panda I had whose clutch unit was so
screwed up most people couldn't drive it at all. The most forgiving
stick-shift I've ever driven is probably my wife's Saturn SW2.

-- Mark

 

[k. ote]

My STi is hard to downshift into first gear in, but I wonder if that's
partly because first is just so low a ratio in that car that second gear
is appropriate more often than would be normal in other cars? I have to
be going /really/ slowly before I can downshift into first. Mind you,
I've not had the car since new, so I've no idea how much the previous
owner might have abused the transmission: I can drive my STi smoothly,
but it takes a lot of care because it's the pickiest car I've ever
driven, including the old Fiat Panda I had whose clutch unit was so
screwed up most people couldn't drive it at all. The most forgiving
stick-shift I've ever driven is probably my wife's Saturn SW2.

-- Mark

You're not the only one who needs a little finesse to downshift to 1st in
his STi. My 2004 STi is similar, and in order to do it when moving any
faster than a crawl, I have to do a full double-clutch.

I believe it's related to the *very* tall gear ratio difference between 2nd
and 1st. Once you get the hang of double-clutching to 1st gear, it'll be
easier; however, it's mostly not required. Downshifting to 2nd is mostly
all I need to come almost to a stop, and then braking finishes the job. 1st
is just overkill because you can only do it when you're just about stopped
anyway, and then the brakes can finish the job.

 

[WrxWagon06]

Ok guys the clutch ad to be ajusted, and now !!
Shifting into 1st is always a little trickier but very easier!
they did a really good job ajusting the clutch and now the friction point is
good 2/3 from the top.