Problem shifting from second to first gear

[Alex]

Please help!
I have Subaru Forester 2003, recently I've noticed that I can not
downshift
from 2nd gear to 1st when driving with speed between 12mph(18km/h) -
1mph (1.6km/h). Actually I have to stop car befor I can dwonshift to
1st gear.
Has anybody experienced this problem? Does anyone know what's causing
it?
Dealer didn't help at all.

Thank you.

 

[Mike G.]

It's your syncros. I've had this problem on every Subie I've owned and it
seems to start after about 20K miles. The syncros just get worn down a bit.
My Legacy has over 215K and it's been like that ever since 20K.

You can put light pressure on the stick as you get down to around 5mph and
then rev it a little bit so the gears will mesh a little more easily. The
other option is to get into the tranny and replace them, although I don't
think it's worth it.

Mike

 

[Dominic Richens]

I have Subaru Forester 2003, recently I've noticed that I can not downshift
from 2nd gear to 1st when driving with speed between 12mph(18km/h) -
1mph (1.6km/h). Actually I have to stop car befor I can dwonshift to
1st gear.

Are you saying you can downshift to 1st if you are going _more_ than 12mph?

 

[Rory]

Never thought this was a 'problem'. With any manual transmission I've ever
driven, this is just the way it works. You have to double clutch to go from
2nd to first if not at a stop... The faster your moving, the more gas you
have to give. Here's a good write up on it:

http://www.driversedge.com/dblcltch.htm

Disclaimer: Of course, this is not to say that _all_ manual transmission
cars behave like this, just those in my experience...

HTH

 

[Rob Munach]

Please help!
I have Subaru Forester 2003, recently I've noticed that I can not
downshift
from 2nd gear to 1st when driving with speed between 12mph(18km/h) -
1mph (1.6km/h). Actually I have to stop car befor I can dwonshift to
1st gear.
Has anybody experienced this problem? Does anyone know what's causing
it?
Dealer didn't help at all.

Thank you.

You need to double clutch to get it to go in at that speed. You are
asking alot from your synchros. Also, try some Redline MT90 in the
transaxle - it will make a noticeable difference as well as minutely
increasing your acceleration and gas mileage.

-Rob

 

[Alex]

Are you saying you can downshift to 1st if you are going _more_ than 12mph?

No, I just would never try to downshift to first gear if I'm going
faster than 12mph (actually 8mph would be right)

 

[Alex]

Thank you all.
I will try Redline MT90.
My car has only 13K (km) or about 8K miles.
I was able to downshift from 2 to 1 until recently.
It didn't happen overnight but in about one month period.
I guess I have to live with it.

Alex

 

[mac]

I've 230,000+ on my 91 legacy and the bote d'vitesse is nice. into first
just fine.

i dunno

 

[Dominic Richens]

No, I just would never try to downshift to first gear if I'm going
faster than 12mph (actually 8mph would be right)

I was pretty sure that was what you meant to say, but I didn't want to
assume anything

So then your 1st gear synchro is burnt out, as other's have said. Same thing
with my 95 Legacy.

I have developed this habit of using my 1st gear to judge when I have
"stopped" at a stop sign. I slow down while putting light pressure on the
stick and when I'm going about 1mph, it'll pop in and I'll let the clutch in
and accellerate away. The other day I was driving my mother's brand new
Echo and almost ran the stop sign because it popped into 1st at about
20mph!! I could hear a strained "vrrrooom!" coming from the gearbox as the
main shaft sped up to match the drive shaft, so I gather it can't be good
for the syncho to shift going any faster than 5mpg.

Anyhow, it will likely cost you 500-1000$ to fix, so I would recommend you
just get used not using first gear, except to start from stop, or learn to
double-clutch

cheers!

 

[Ceph Lopod]

Please help!
I have Subaru Forester 2003, recently I've noticed that I can not
downshift
from 2nd gear to 1st when driving with speed between 12mph(18km/h) -
1mph (1.6km/h). Actually I have to stop car befor I can dwonshift to
1st gear.
Has anybody experienced this problem? Does anyone know what's causing
it?
Dealer didn't help at all.

I drive on some really curvy roads (many curves are posted 15 mph)
that necessitate lots of shifting but I never ever shift into first
except pulling away from a complete stop.
Why would you want to shift into first going 12 mph?
The H4 has plenty of torque.
This question has come up around here before.
With all respect what the hell are you trying to do to your car?