NJ state inspection

[Tom Reingold]

I got a chuckle today at the NJ state inspection station. We need
inspections every two years. As folks here said, my car is exempt from
the emissions test, because of the way they administer it. They have a
set up with rollers, where the drive axle of a two-wheel drive car
rests. They run the drive wheels for a while to test the exhaust
emissions. But they are not equipped for cars with more than one drive
axle.

Tom

 

[Jim Stewart]

I got a chuckle today at the NJ state inspection station. We need
inspections every two years. As folks here said, my car is exempt from
the emissions test, because of the way they administer it. They have a
set up with rollers, where the drive axle of a two-wheel drive car
rests. They run the drive wheels for a while to test the exhaust
emissions. But they are not equipped for cars with more than one drive
axle.

Here in California, we still have to do the idle
and cruise rpm emissions tests, and a visual inspection,
but not the dyno.

 

[Al]

Here in California, we still have to do the idle
and cruise rpm emissions tests, and a visual inspection,
but not the dyno.

Don't be too happy. Soon they will plug into your OBD plug and your own
car will rat on you. It will even tell them if you exceeded the speed
limit; can a ticket follow soon?

Al

 

[jabario]

Don't be too happy. Soon they will plug into your OBD plug and your own
car will rat on you. It will even tell them if you exceeded the speed
limit; can a ticket follow soon?<<

Why do people start with this BS? They said the same thing about EZ
pass and anyone who doesnt have it is a stupid a**. There have been no
tickets from the ez pass calculations Anyway NJ law allows only
ticketing of driver not owner (except for passing a school bus). So
even if OBDII could spit out this info who would be charged?

 

[mulder]

car will rat on you. It will even tell them if you exceeded the speed
limit; can a ticket follow soon?<<

Why do people start with this BS? They said the same thing about EZ
pass and anyone who doesnt have it is a stupid a**. There have been no
tickets from the ez pass calculations Anyway NJ law allows only
ticketing of driver not owner (except for passing a school bus). So
even if OBDII could spit out this info who would be charged?

NJ and NY already have OBDII inspection. They aren't looking at
anything other than CEL status, stored codes, and readiness tests.

 

[CompUser]

Don't be too happy. Soon they will plug into your OBD plug and your own
car will rat on you. It will even tell them if you exceeded the speed
limit; can a ticket follow soon?

No, because the computer won't show *where* the
speed violation occurred, or who was driving.
Gotta have jurisdiction over the person, place &
offense, right?

Hopefully, Amanda will weigh in, with her
opinion.

 

[Al]

NJ and NY already have OBDII inspection. They aren't looking at
anything other than CEL status, stored codes, and readiness tests.

I see, the laws are written in stone and will never change....unless, of
course, a new revenue stream is needed.

Al

 

[Tom Reingold]

car will rat on you. It will even tell them if you exceeded the speed
limit; can a ticket follow soon?<<

Why do people start with this BS? They said the same thing about EZ
pass and anyone who doesnt have it is a stupid a**. There have been no
tickets from the ez pass calculations Anyway NJ law allows only
ticketing of driver not owner (except for passing a school bus). So
even if OBDII could spit out this info who would be charged?

I think the fear is rational. It hasn't happened much yet, but it has
started. A car rental company in CT keeps track of its cars' speeds by
GPS, and they fine you, before the police do, if you go too fast. And
they tell you this in the fine print. This story came out about a year ago.

Tom

 

[Al]

Don't be too happy. Soon they will plug into your OBD plug and your own
car will rat on you. It will even tell them if you exceeded the speed
limit; can a ticket follow soon?

No, because the computer won't show *where* the
speed violation occurred, or who was driving.
Gotta have jurisdiction over the person, place &
offense, right?

Hopefully, Amanda will weigh in, with her
opinion.[/QUOTE]

Not necessarily, In Massachusetts you can't renew your registration
until all of your traffic tickets are paid. It doesn't matter who did
the illegal parking, kiddie or wifie or hubbie. The owner of the car
pays.

The traffic cams at red lights don't tell you who was the offending
driving either. The owner of the car pays.

And as far as *where* is concerned, can't GPS tell where the vehicle was
at the time the offense occured? Check out the post about rental cars.

Al

 

[Suzie BabaBazooms]

Why do people start with this BS? They said the same thing about EZ
pass and anyone who doesnt have it is a stupid a**. There have been no
tickets from the ez pass calculations Anyway NJ law allows only
ticketing of driver not owner (except for passing a school bus). So
even if OBDII could spit out this info who would be charged?

R U th4 great jabriol from rec.religion.seventh.day.adventist and similar
groups?

(just curious...it would be nifty if the living legend 'jabby' made an
apperance here)

 

[CompUser]

Not necessarily, In Massachusetts you can't renew your registration
until all of your traffic tickets are paid. It doesn't matter who did
the illegal parking, kiddie or wifie or hubbie. The owner of the car
pays.

Only if he/she chooses to not contest.
Otherwise, the burden of proof to identify the
offender remains with the state.

The traffic cams at red lights don't tell you who was the offending
driving either. The owner of the car pays.

Some may not, but some do show the driver's
face...same deal applies.

And as far as *where* is concerned, can't GPS tell where the vehicle was
at the time the offense occured? Check out the post about rental cars.

Discussion was reference OBDII, concerning
vehicle ECU, not GPS. Yes, GPS does provide
location information.

 

[jabario]

The laws in mass are different. They also do not require a driving
test- witness all the massholes driving on our roads

 

[GrumpyOldGeek]

@news.verizon.net>, (e-mail address removed) says..




Only if he/she chooses to not contest.
Otherwise, the burden of proof to identify the
offender remains with the state.

Not so in California. Your license can
be denied by administrative action for
outstanding tickets. No judge, no jury,
no right to trial, just a computer running
a match on your drivers license - vehicle
registration.

 

[CompUser]

Not so in California. Your license can
be denied by administrative action for
outstanding tickets. No judge, no jury,
no right to trial, just a computer running
a match on your drivers license - vehicle
registration.

Read the above.

Admin action occurs only where not trial is held.

And, you're mixing apples & oranges.

Adminstrative suspension or revocation of driving
*priviledge* is entirely different from
punishment for commission of an illegal act.

One requires a trial, the other does not.

 

[Keapon Laffin]

I see, the laws are written in stone and will never change....unless, of
course, a new revenue stream is needed.

Al

What about "run what you brung" days at race tracks, you would be over most
speed limits... And without breaking laws. Since they can't determine where
you where when you were going that speed they have no evidence that a crime
occured.

 

[Al]

What about "run what you brung" days at race tracks, you would be over most
speed limits... And without breaking laws. Since they can't determine where
you where when you were going that speed they have no evidence that a crime
occured.

Unfortunately when it comes to traffic laws here, you have to prove you
are innocent.

Al

 

[Keapon Laffin]

Unfortunately when it comes to traffic laws here, you have to prove you
are innocent.

Remind me not to move to NJ. ;-)