Check engine code 0325 : knock sensor

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flyinlouis

I got a check engine light. The code is the knock sensor (0325). When you
receive that code, is it sure that it is caused by a faulty knock sensor?
I do not want to buy the sensor to find out that it wasn't the cause. I
removed it and tested it by pluging it to an oscilloscope and it seams to
work fine: when I hit it, it produces a nice voltage sine with a peak to
peak voltage of 2-3 volts depending how hard you hit the sensor. Nothing
seams wrong so I'm just wandering if I need to test something else before
replacing the knock sensor.

Thanks for your advice!
 
Trace the connection between the sensor and the ECU? Sounds like
you've shown the sensor itself to be functional.

The factory service manual for my WRX gives a detailed flow chart for
finding the cause of each and every "diagnostic trouble code" (DTC).
About 300 pages of the manual are devoted to these flow charts.
Unfortunately, my WRX FSM has no listing for P0325.

I'd suggest trying to obtain the manual for your vehicle. Takes lots
of the guesswork out of fixing the car.

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I thought that the code meant the sensor had detected a knock and was making
an alert? I would check the air filter to make sure it isn't clogged up.

Does the light come back on if you reset the system?
 
You don't say what car you have. My 2000 Forester has 2 sensors and some
models have 3. Did you check all of them??
 
I get these informative emails every so often and this one talks a little
about the knock sensor. It appears that you have a good start on the
problem. This author and one of the suggestions is there are more than one
sensor. I have no idea what you might have on your vehicle. This knock
sensor seems to be touchy and a source of real annoyance. BUT I am sure that
it is worth having in the system...



Hope some of this help.

PS: I do own this Auto Tap toll and it works great on my wife's 1995 Subaru
Legacy LSI. Yes, this '95 does have the OBDII connector...

Bill



From Autotap website email...

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Ready for another automotive topic? Today I'm stuffing your inbox with info
on your car's knock sensor and just how it helps you get the most
durability, power and economy out of your engine.

First, a couple sentences on just what "knock" is. In your engine, the fuel
mixture is injected, and then the piston begins its compression stroke.
Somewhere just before the piston reaches the top of its travel, the spark
plug fires, igniting the mixture. That's actually a pretty well-controlled
burn and it creates the pressure needed to drive the piston down through its
power stroke. "Knock", also called pinging, occurs when something causes the
fuel to ignite in an uncontrolled manner, usually before the spark plug even
fires. This is a violent event in the engine - heavy pinging can lead to all
kinds of internal engine damage.

Remember the cars of the late 70's and early 80's? It sure wasn't unusual to
here them knock. But in today's vehicles you (almost) never hear as much as
the slightest knock. Improved electronic controls play a big part in that,
but the unseen hero is our friend the knock sensor. This little guy detects
vibration - but much more than that, it can actually tell the difference
between the engine's normal shakes and rattles and knock. Pretty impressive
considering all the mechanical motion going on in an engine.

You'll find the knock sensor mounted somewhere on the engine block or intake
manifold. I'm told that some engines even use more than one.

What are the symptoms of a failed knock sensor? It can be pretty subtle and
not that noticeable in every day driving, or if you don't have a scantool.
There are two things that can happen. First, the knock sensor could fail to
detect knock leading to audible pinging when conditions are right. If you
hear pinging you definitely need to check out the knock sensor. Second, the
knock sensor could be overactive - detecting knock that's not really
present. That translates into reduced power and economy.

So how do you test a knock sensor? Pretty simple really. Plug in AutoTap or
another scantool, then take your favorite wrench and give the engine block a
couple raps next to the knock sensor (please, don't hit the sensor itself!).
Watch the ignition timing and knock sensor parameters on AutoTap's screen -
you'll see knock events register on the knock sensor parameter, and you'll
see the ignition timing retard a few degrees. If you don't see any change,
be suspicious of the knock sensor and its wiring harness.

Another possible problem with knock sensors is mis-triggering on some other
vibration. One example where this is common is on modified cars with
aftermarket headers. Space is usually pretty tight, and a header tube might
rattle against another part under acceleration, or a manifold bolt might
work loose. These subtle problems can drive knock sensors nuts. You might
also see some knock sensor activity on a badly worn engine from a noisy
valve train or worn bearings. Odds are good on those engines that the few
degrees of lost timing advance isn't the biggest issue to worry about!

Happy Repairs,

Mike Fahrion
www.autotap.com
 
Ive had the same code come up on my wrx. Apparently, the sensor is a bit
"sensitive". The exhaust shield (at the crossover pipe) had come loose, and was
vibrating enough to make the ecm think the engine was "pinging". I know, weird,
but once I tightened it, no more code. Just a thought.
 
I got this same problem and found some other guys that had this
problem too. All I did was replace the knock sensor and the problem
was fixed. Something about the factory ones are squrilly. I believe
mine was around $80.
 
PS: I do own this Auto Tap toll and it works great on my wife's 1995
Subaru
Legacy LSI. Yes, this '95 does have the OBDII connector...

Actually, as far as I know, the '95 Legacy (Automatic model) is the earliest
vehicle to incorporate the OBDII diagnostic system. I don't think it was
required until '96 or '97 though.

-Matt
 
Correct. OBD-II was not standardized until 1996, but Subaru was compliant in
1995.
 

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