buying a brand new subaru

[amanda992004]

I plan to buy a brand new car in 1 to 2 months. A neighbor told me to
do research on Internet and then do to the dealer and ask to talk with
the fleet manager and tell what I want and be done with it.

I prefer to spend time researching on Internet instead of listening to
the sale people but I am very uneducated about buying a new car. All
the car I bought were used ones and this friend or that friend (whoever
was availablre) helped me out each time.

Now, I am in a new city with no friends and also I want to have the
experience buying one with my own knowledge. I would appreciate if I
can get some guidance here.

I want a 4-door Sedan (prefer 2006 over 2005) with the following:

(0) My price range must be between 15,000 - 23,000 for total expense
involed in bring the car home, exclusing getting the car insurance.
(1) Basic when it comes to engine, i.e no high performance that will
cost extra but I do orefer a car that can speed up easily when it needs
to; automatic transmission; front wheel drive unless 4 wheel drive is
not to much more expensive.
(2) Wants electrically-controlled windows;
(3) Car seat that has heater built-in (sorry for not knowing the
correct term); remove this feature if it's over my price range
(4) Separate A/C and heater controlled for driver and front seat
passengers; willing to remove this feature if the price goes over my
price range
(5) Only mandatory air bags.

 

[philjackson]

Thats easy. LEGACY 2.5I SEDAN
Starting at $21,295*

 

[Carl 1 Lucky Texan]

I like www.edmunds.com and there are others too. You could also go to
your local public library and get the April (hmmm - might still be at
the newstand) issue of Consumer Reports as well as the 2004 Buyer's Guide.

Carl

 

[Woody]

I plan to buy a brand new car in 1 to 2 months. A neighbor told me to
do research on Internet and then do to the dealer and ask to talk with
the fleet manager and tell what I want and be done with it.

I prefer to spend time researching on Internet instead of listening to
the sale people but I am very uneducated about buying a new car. All
the car I bought were used ones and this friend or that friend (whoever
was availablre) helped me out each time.

Now, I am in a new city with no friends and also I want to have the
experience buying one with my own knowledge. I would appreciate if I
can get some guidance here.

I want a 4-door Sedan (prefer 2006 over 2005) with the following:

(0) My price range must be between 15,000 - 23,000 for total expense
involed in bring the car home, exclusing getting the car insurance.
(1) Basic when it comes to engine, i.e no high performance that will
cost extra but I do orefer a car that can speed up easily when it needs
to; automatic transmission; front wheel drive unless 4 wheel drive is
not to much more expensive.
(2) Wants electrically-controlled windows;
(3) Car seat that has heater built-in (sorry for not knowing the
correct term); remove this feature if it's over my price range
(4) Separate A/C and heater controlled for driver and front seat
passengers; willing to remove this feature if the price goes over my
price range
(5) Only mandatory air bags.

1. Read the entire April issue of Consumer Reports and follow their
suggested approach..

2. Spend a lot of time at http://www.edmunds.com/ to get all the data
that you need.

3. Go to a dealer to test drive and carefully look over the product
and leave without talking about price. (This is to help you decide
exactly what you want).

4. Go back to http://www.edmunds.com/ and determine the dealer cost
(less incentives) for exactly what your want, print it out.

5. Now you are ready to go back to at least two dealers and follow the
Consumer Reports approach to price negotiations. If a dealer won't
negotiate up from dealer cost less incentives, walk out and go to
another dealer.


Woody; 95FXDS

 

[Frank Logullo]

I plan to buy a brand new car in 1 to 2 months. A neighbor told me to
do research on Internet and then do to the dealer and ask to talk with
the fleet manager and tell what I want and be done with it.

I always do a clean deal, i.e. car only. No trade in, no dealer financing,
no dealer extras and no warranty. All these extras complicate things.
Remember - you only buy one car at a time and they do this every day.
Frank

 

[Alan]

I plan to buy a brand new car in 1 to 2 months. A neighbor told me to
do research on Internet and then do to the dealer and ask to talk with
the fleet manager and tell what I want and be done with it.

I prefer to spend time researching on Internet instead of listening to
the sale people but I am very uneducated about buying a new car. All
the car I bought were used ones and this friend or that friend (whoever
was availablre) helped me out each time.

Now, I am in a new city with no friends and also I want to have the
experience buying one with my own knowledge. I would appreciate if I
can get some guidance here.

I want a 4-door Sedan (prefer 2006 over 2005) with the following:

(0) My price range must be between 15,000 - 23,000 for total expense
involed in bring the car home, exclusing getting the car insurance.
(1) Basic when it comes to engine, i.e no high performance that will
cost extra but I do orefer a car that can speed up easily when it needs
to; automatic transmission; front wheel drive unless 4 wheel drive is
not to much more expensive.
(2) Wants electrically-controlled windows;
(3) Car seat that has heater built-in (sorry for not knowing the
correct term); remove this feature if it's over my price range
(4) Separate A/C and heater controlled for driver and front seat
passengers; willing to remove this feature if the price goes over my
price range
(5) Only mandatory air bags.

Visit edmunds.com and read everything you can on how to buy a car. If
you go in to the dealer talking the way you are now, he will spot you
as an easy mark.

Couple of definites: You should be able to pay roughly $2000 below
sticker for almost any car in your range. Try to arrange your own
financing in advance, This ia anarea where they can confuse the heck
out of you, especially if they talk you into a lease.

 

[Catherine Hampton]

2. Spend a lot of time at http://www.edmunds.com/ to get all the data
that you need.

Unfortunately, I get blank screens or JavaScript errors when I try to use this
site. When I ask for a quote off of the front page, I get a blank HTML screen.
When I try to dig down, it asks me for my zip code, and then refuses to take my
zip code or any other legitimate 5-digit zip code in the U.S. I think it uses
complex JavaScripts that choke if you have a good web proxy or firewall that
filters out dangerous/nosy scripts from web sites.

I guess I'll get my information elsewhere.



--
Catherine Hampton <(e-mail address removed)>
Home Page * <http://www.devsite.org/>
The SpamBouncer * <http://www.spambouncer.org/>

(Please use this address for replies -- the address in my header is a
spam trap.)

 

[Philip Procter]

I went to consummer reports and paid for a price quote for the exact
car I wanted (I think it cost about $12). Went to the dealer and test
drove the nearest thing on thier lot. They then quoted me "dealer
cost" plus $800. I took out the CR quote which showed true dealer cost
and told them that plus $800. They said "yes". Total time: 5 minutes.

I told them I'd pick the car up at 5pm and I went shopping with the
wife. That was the only stressful part, I wanted to be shopping in my
new Sti !

My only advice: Don't get so hooked on that one car on the lot that
you are not willing to walk out of the dealer if you don't get a good
price. As soon as you're hooked, you're toast.

They need you much worse than you need them. You are in TOTAL
control!!!

Philip

 

[Chris Werner]

I just bought my 2005 Subaru Outback 2.5XT from www.carsdirect.com. No
hassle and you don't have to talk to a salesman.

Chris Werner

 

[Jim Stewart]

I went to consummer reports and paid for a price quote for the exact
car I wanted (I think it cost about $12). Went to the dealer and test
drove the nearest thing on thier lot. They then quoted me "dealer
cost" plus $800. I took out the CR quote which showed true dealer cost
and told them that plus $800. They said "yes". Total time: 5 minutes.

What was the difference between the two
"dealer costs"?

 

[Earle Jones]

I plan to buy a brand new car in 1 to 2 months. A neighbor told me to
do research on Internet and then do to the dealer and ask to talk with
the fleet manager and tell what I want and be done with it.

I prefer to spend time researching on Internet instead of listening to
the sale people but I am very uneducated about buying a new car. All
the car I bought were used ones and this friend or that friend (whoever
was availablre) helped me out each time.

Now, I am in a new city with no friends and also I want to have the
experience buying one with my own knowledge. I would appreciate if I
can get some guidance here.

I want a 4-door Sedan (prefer 2006 over 2005) with the following:

(0) My price range must be between 15,000 - 23,000 for total expense
involed in bring the car home, exclusing getting the car insurance.
(1) Basic when it comes to engine, i.e no high performance that will
cost extra but I do orefer a car that can speed up easily when it needs
to; automatic transmission; front wheel drive unless 4 wheel drive is
not to much more expensive.
(2) Wants electrically-controlled windows;
(3) Car seat that has heater built-in (sorry for not knowing the
correct term); remove this feature if it's over my price range
(4) Separate A/C and heater controlled for driver and front seat
passengers; willing to remove this feature if the price goes over my
price range
(5) Only mandatory air bags.

*
I own an '01 Subaru Outback wagon and an '05 Prius.

I would get a Prius, which gets about 48 MPG compared to the Subaru
24 MPG.

earle
*

 

[Guy Macon]

Unfortunately, I get blank screens or JavaScript errors when I try to use this
site. When I ask for a quote off of the front page, I get a blank HTML screen.
When I try to dig down, it asks me for my zip code, and then refuses to take my
zip code or any other legitimate 5-digit zip code in the U.S. I think it uses
complex JavaScripts that choke if you have a good web proxy or firewall that
filters out dangerous/nosy scripts from web sites.

I guess I'll get my information elsewhere.

Or you could get a security setup that wasn't designed by Procrustes.

 

[Jim Stewart]

Catherine Hampton wrote:




Or you could get a security setup that wasn't designed by Procrustes.

Hey Guy, don't I know you from comp.arch.embedded?

 

[Guy Macon]

Hey Guy, don't I know you from comp.arch.embedded?

Yup. Engineers love Subarus! I have two 1885 wagons that are
just starting to get broken in a 200,000 miles... <grin>

(To elaborate on the Procrustes comment, Procrustes made every
visitor, short or tall, fit the same bed, either by stretching
them on a rack or by chopping off their feet. The firewall
that Catherine describes treats every JavaScript the same,
whether it's the Evil JavaSript at
[ members.chello.at/reini/crashme.htm ] or at
[ www.janussen.dk/crash-ie-3.html ] or whether it's
the Good JavaScript at [ http://www.edmunds.com/ ]
or at [ http://www.mauvecloud.net/jscore/ ]. A proper security
system allows you to assign different levels of security to
different webpages.)