Big Jim said:Kind of goofy. I'd rather they design their vehicles better so I might
be tempted to buy another. Subaru has degraded into just another
lookalike car company.
I dunno. They still win awards for reliability, quality, etc.
I just had the head gasket problem on my '03 Forester with only 40 k mi.Sure they do.
It is just the 200k plus mile car that has become practically
extinct.
When the 1.8, 2.0, and 2.2L engines were common there were NO
awards, just cars making it past 200k miles easily.
Now its the other way around!
Even that lousy 2.5 liter engine that ate through headgaskets like
no other, has been given an award (!), ....though it is the sole
cause
one rarely sees a 200k plus Subraru nowadays.
Thank god they finally put themselves together at Subaru
and built some new engines, and a different 2.5L.
I think they new they could not carry on like that
without eventually destroying the brand. The awards
cover-up I suspect was an invention engineered by GM,
when GM was a major stakeholder in Subaru, a few years
back. An ugly legacy!
Basia
Sure they do.
It is just the 200k plus mile car that has become practically
extinct.
When the 1.8, 2.0, and 2.2L engines were common there were NO
awards, just cars making it past 200k miles easily.
Now its the other way around!
Even that lousy 2.5 liter engine that ate through headgaskets like
no other, has been given an award (!), ....though it is the sole
cause
one rarely sees a 200k plus Subraru nowadays.
Thank god they finally put themselves together at Subaru
and built some new engines, and a different 2.5L.
I think they new they could not carry on like that
without eventually destroying the brand. The awards
cover-up I suspect was an invention engineered by GM,
when GM was a major stakeholder in Subaru, a few years
back. An ugly legacy!
Basia
Frank said:I just had the head gasket problem on my '03 Forester with only 40 k mi.
Out of warranty but have appealed to SOA anyway. Wife has an '08
Forester but I don't want to see the problem on either. Dealer said
they've never seen it below 100 k mi. We love our Foresters but this is
the kind of problem that could chase me to another nameplate.
Hopefully by the time I want a new one, the new engine will have proven
itself.
Hachiroku ãƒãƒãƒã‚¯ said:Hey! It's GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!
When they first started advertising them, they had them! Wonder why they
got rid of it?
They have a "rainbow" one labeled "diversity". How quaint...
Funny, I was thinking about that just yesterday. I live around
Northampton, MA, home of Smith College. I was going to get a friend of
mine the LGBT one (he's NOT!)
* It may have been the liquor talking, but Hachiroku ãƒãƒãƒã‚¯
I guess they're trying to appeal to a certain demographic - the commies.
*R* *H*
I'm surprised the LGBT didn't go over BIG around here! Either that, or
they completely depleted the stock...
I just had the head gasket problem on my '03 Forester with only 40 k mi.
Out of warranty but have appealed to SOA anyway. Wife has an '08
Forester but I don't want to see the problem on either. Dealer said
they've never seen it below 100 k mi. We love our Foresters but this is
the kind of problem that could chase me to another nameplate.
Hopefully by the time I want a new one, the new engine will have proven
itself.
* It may have been the liquor talking, but
Yea, I hear you. I don't want that problem! I've got the new 2.5. Hoping
they looked into that problem on the new head design...
I try to keep the rev's below 3K. don't know if that makes a difference or
not. BTW, I hear from a friend that Honda has the same problem with the head
gasket on the 4 cyl or used to.
*R* *H*
Wondering on new engine: Is Subaru synthetic oil required and is special
Subaru coolant still needed?
I'm a little concerned with being stuck with Subaru shop for service.
My dealer wants to do all sorts of unnecessary stuff. Wife insists on
going there and went this week for oil change and he wanted to flush
engine and change cabin air filter at 20 k mi. Fortunately I had
educated her and knew flush was unnecessary and had cleaned the filter
myself (at a savings of $90).
I suspect Subaru is not the only company guilty of trying to make up for
lost sales by piling on shop charges.
Frank said:Wondering on new engine: Is Subaru synthetic oil required and is special
Subaru coolant still needed?
I'm a little concerned with being stuck with Subaru shop for service.
My dealer wants to do all sorts of unnecessary stuff. Wife insists on
going there and went this week for oil change and he wanted to flush
engine and change cabin air filter at 20 k mi. Fortunately I had
educated her and knew flush was unnecessary and had cleaned the filter
myself (at a savings of $90).
I suspect Subaru is not the only company guilty of trying to make up for
lost sales by piling on shop charges.
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