'97 Legacy Outback 30th Anniv.Ed. - Car wont start after...

[Smith]

some long time when the battery was removed. In addition to this I
found a keyless entry module under the steering wheel and I dont have
the remote (it was bought from the insurance auction). Nevermind the
fact car was hit slightly in the front, airbags didnt deploy. I turn
the key in the ignition, the lights go on but the starter wont crank.
After a second from turning the key into 'run' position, i hear a click
coming from behind the glove compartment (the computer or sth). But,
when i tried to short the starter to the battery's positive pin - it
cranks the engine, yet wont start. I was told the fuel pump doesnt work
(doesnt feed the engine with the fuel).
Any clues appreciated

 

[jerryeveretts]

Sounds like the cars security system. crank the starter and squirt some
carb cleaner in the intake and see if it fires. That will let you know
if you have ignition. Also you might look to see if there is an
aftermarket alarm installed..

Jerry

 

[Remco]

some long time when the battery was removed. In addition to this I
found a keyless entry module under the steering wheel and I dont have
the remote (it was bought from the insurance auction). Nevermind the
fact car was hit slightly in the front, airbags didnt deploy. I turn
the key in the ignition, the lights go on but the starter wont crank.
After a second from turning the key into 'run' position, i hear a click
coming from behind the glove compartment (the computer or sth). But,
when i tried to short the starter to the battery's positive pin - it
cranks the engine, yet wont start. I was told the fuel pump doesnt work
(doesnt feed the engine with the fuel).
Any clues appreciated

Not sure how a legacy is wired but I do know that the main relay and
fuel pump relay are both on the same fuse on an Impreza - perhaps that
is the same on the Legacy.

I'd check to see if you are getting power to one side of the contact of
the main relay and fuel pump relay.
The coil of the fuel pump relay uses a different fuse, so that would
explain why you'd hear the 'click' of the relay (that is most likely
the fuel pump relay, powering the pump to prime the system).

Do you have a schematic to your car?

Remco

 

[thomashanno]

If it is security system related, I might be able to help.

After installing an aftermarket stereo in my 97 legacy outback, I
reconnected the battery but the console kept beeping and the engine
would not start (the lights worked though). I had to turn the key to
the "ACC lock" postion (or something like that) and then hold this
button that was hidden under the driver's side dash. The button was a
small black piece which was dangling from a wire on my car, but that
might be because the mechanic had to tear it apart to find it before he
sold me the car (he had mentioned something about it).

Anyway, there was a note about it near the battery, and in the manual
as well I think. Hope this helps, though I'm not sure that it will.

 

[Smith]

Ok, Im so down on dumps with that issue that Im willing to give up.

Jerry: I did try to dumb-start the engine as I mentioned in my 1st post
and I was successful - engine was running for like seconds. About the
alarm - if I knew what a 'clean' wiring under the steering wheel looks
like - then I could tell. There are so many modules that Im lost whats
what, although Im refering to Haynes book.

Remco: If I only knew where the fuse for the fuel pump is So far I
know that the relay for it is well hidden behind the fusebox and it Is
hard to reach. But following Your clue - I should start looking for the
relay where I suppose the ECU (computer) is - the glovebox...

Thomas: The button... Yes, Ive been playin around with it for a while
but no success, and I get that beeping sound all the time but I think
its because of either the door opened or the seatbelt not fastened. I
guess the Alarm would sound differently and louder

Anyways - more people coming over to try their luck tommorow, so...
Wish good luck fellas. I surely let you know when the engine will crank.

 

[Remco]

Ok, Im so down on dumps with that issue that Im willing to give up.

Jerry: I did try to dumb-start the engine as I mentioned in my 1st post
and I was successful - engine was running for like seconds. About the
alarm - if I knew what a 'clean' wiring under the steering wheel looks
like - then I could tell. There are so many modules that Im lost whats
what, although Im refering to Haynes book.

Remco: If I only knew where the fuse for the fuel pump is So far I
know that the relay for it is well hidden behind the fusebox and it Is
hard to reach. But following Your clue - I should start looking for the
relay where I suppose the ECU (computer) is - the glovebox...

Thomas: The button... Yes, Ive been playin around with it for a while
but no success, and I get that beeping sound all the time but I think
its because of either the door opened or the seatbelt not fastened. I
guess the Alarm would sound differently and louder

Anyways - more people coming over to try their luck tommorow, so...
Wish good luck fellas. I surely let you know when the engine will crank.

You'll have a really hard time getting this car to run without a
service manual or schematic.

You can download all the factory manuals you want here:
http://techinfo.subaru.com/html/index.jsp
It will cost you about $30 for a 72 hr subscription but you'll most
likely get a running car out of the deal.

Good luck with it.
Remco

 

[Smith]

Well, guys - guess what
It's runnning Its a celebration down here )
Here's how it happened. One guy I called earlier on showed up, got me a
spare headlight (that is strange how Subaru messed it up with the
different models when about headlights, nvm...) and claimed he knows
all about Subarus. ....ok ;P He went down under the steering wheel (I
wasnt there, LOL). At first he said that the keyless entry system is
not genuine but eventually he changed his mind (sic) when he saw
another module (fuel pump cut-off thing - apparently). He ripped both
things out and (to make a long story short) the engine started and was
idling nicely. Dude, had it ever made me happy and still !
All my concerns about bent valves when timing the engine, about fuel
pump relay, ECU, and so on and on ....
Thanks for feedack,
Good luck to you all,
Tom

 

[Remco]

Well, guys - guess what
It's runnning Its a celebration down here )
Here's how it happened. One guy I called earlier on showed up, got me a
spare headlight (that is strange how Subaru messed it up with the
different models when about headlights, nvm...) and claimed he knows
all about Subarus. ....ok ;P He went down under the steering wheel (I
wasnt there, LOL). At first he said that the keyless entry system is
not genuine but eventually he changed his mind (sic) when he saw
another module (fuel pump cut-off thing - apparently). He ripped both
things out and (to make a long story short) the engine started and was
idling nicely. Dude, had it ever made me happy and still !
All my concerns about bent valves when timing the engine, about fuel
pump relay, ECU, and so on and on ....
Thanks for feedack,
Good luck to you all,
Tom

Congrats!

 

[jerryeveretts]

Well, guys - guess what
It's runnning Its a celebration down here )
Here's how it happened. One guy I called earlier on showed up, got me a
spare headlight (that is strange how Subaru messed it up with the
different models when about headlights, nvm...) and claimed he knows
all about Subarus. ....ok ;P He went down under the steering wheel (I
wasnt there, LOL). At first he said that the keyless entry system is
not genuine but eventually he changed his mind (sic) when he saw
another module (fuel pump cut-off thing - apparently). He ripped both
things out and (to make a long story short) the engine started and was
idling nicely. Dude, had it ever made me happy and still !
All my concerns about bent valves when timing the engine, about fuel
pump relay, ECU, and so on and on ....
Thanks for feedack,
Good luck to you all,
Tom

Excellent, now is it time to flip it?? or are you going to keep it?

 

[Smith]

Well,...
I was planning on driving the car to death - I mean - as long as
possible while taking goos care of it but when I started repairing it I
had thoughts of dumping the car at the scapyard. Now, I've made up my
mind and this baby gonna rock me on! All the way across Canda. Im
moving from Toronto to somewhere in Alberta or B.C. right after the car
is fixed. Im going to make a web page about how the repairs went along
with some amounts
So, chech this topic back

Sincerely,

Tom