2009 Subaru Legacy Concept

CharlesTheCumguzzler said:
Looks like a Toyota Avensis, that is to say, yawn, yawn, boring!

... it doesn't look good.

The front caddy-esc lights are awful, and I don't know why they bother
with the 'blade' through the center of the grill. IMHO the current and
previous models always looked better with the after market grills that
dispensed with the cross bar / blade / wing / whatever they call the
style element.

Wheel arches - Mazda and Honda called, they want their flares back,
though they look better in the shots from Detroit than the cg shots.

The back looks like a current Toyota Aurion/Camry - not bad, but nothing
special.

Hopefully the headlights and all of the silly angles are dropped before
production to get the cost down. I'll hopefully be looking at the JDM09
RSK / GT / GTB-etune / etc equivalent in about 6yrs :)
 
The morons who Subaru has designing cars need to be drawn and
quartered!!!! Subaru needs to go back to the vehicles that saved them
from the brink. An Outback that looks like a RUGGED wagon- a GT with
hood scoop and spoiler etc. I was hoping to replace my 04 outback
(the ultimate outback for drive ergonomics design etc) but I dont
think I'll be buying another if those awful concept vehicles translate
to production.
 
The morons who Subaru has designing cars need to be drawn and
quartered!!!! Subaru needs to go back to the vehicles that saved them
from the brink. An Outback that looks like a RUGGED wagon- a GT with
hood scoop and spoiler etc. I was hoping to replace my 04 outback
(the ultimate outback for drive ergonomics design etc) but I dont
think I'll be buying another if those awful concept vehicles translate
to production.


Gotta agree. I was behind a new WRX sedan the other day and I must have
repeated *UG-LY* 4 times. No pizzazz whatsoever.
 
Hachiroku said:
Gotta agree. I was behind a new WRX sedan the other day and I must have
repeated *UG-LY* 4 times. No pizzazz whatsoever.

Heh, I haven't seen a new shape sedan on the road, but every time I see
the back of the current Impreza hatch (std/rex/sti) I think Outlander
(the Mitsi soft-roader, like a Forester or Honda CRV).
Not massively ugly, but not what you want to be (albeit fleetingly)
confused with.
 
Heh, I haven't seen a new shape sedan on the road, but every time I see
the back of the current Impreza hatch (std/rex/sti) I think Outlander
(the Mitsi soft-roader, like a Forester or Honda CRV).
Not massively ugly, but not what you want to be (albeit fleetingly)
confused with.


Now, I like hatches, and when I saw the new Impreza hatch I liked it right
off the bat. But the sedan look too plastic...
 
Now, I like hatches, and when I saw the new Impreza hatch I liked it right
off the bat. But the sedan look too plastic...- Hide quoted text -

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I actually think that the current legacy is a sharp looking car. The
imprezza hasn't looked good since the nineties though. The new one I
like from some angles, but the tail is just not right. I can't put my
finger on it, but the tail end doesn't work for me. The baja... Well,
at least they didn't waste too much money developing it since it is
just an edited legacy.

I think Legacy beauty skips generations. First gen was kind of boring.
Second gen looked much better. Third gen had awkward tall headlights
and lost the curving lines arround the tailights that blended so well
with the sides of the body on the second gen. Fourth gen is beautiful.
Fifth gen so far does not look good from the front. I can only hope it
looks better in real life.
 
[trimmed]
The baja... Well,
at least they didn't waste too much money developing it since it is
just an edited legacy.

You sure of that? Changing the cage means a whole lot
of new modeling to check its strength to various forces
with subsequent crash testing. I somehow suspect sedans have a
slightly
stronger cage than wagons despite the folding rear seats and a pass
thru trunk.


I remember watching a Lotus
infomercial a while ago where they mentioned
that it was a whole lot easier for them to design a new engine
than to design a new door. Since I don't know if Lotus even
builds their own engines I wonder if that was some kind of
an inside joke though.
 
[trimmed]
The baja... Well,
at least they didn't waste too much money developing it since it is
just an edited legacy.

You sure of that? Changing the cage means a whole lot
of new modeling to check its strength to various forces
with subsequent crash testing. I somehow suspect sedans have a
slightly
stronger cage than wagons despite the folding rear seats and a pass
thru trunk.

I remember watching a Lotus
infomercial a while ago where they mentioned
that it was a whole lot easier for them to design a new engine
than to design a new door. Since I don't know if Lotus even
builds their own engines I wonder if that was some kind of
an inside joke though.

You might have a good point... or two. I don't know who built the
esprit engine, but I think it was Lotus. Maybe it was Rover. I know
the toyota engine wasn't always in the Elise, but I don't know what
was in it before the celica powerplant.

As for the redesign of the structure and crash tests... It would
create a lot of regulations nightmares, but I'm pretty sure that they
got to reuse the entire body forward of the B pillar, which saves a
lot of engineering that might go on in a totally new vehicle. Then
again, a totally new vehicle is so rare nowadays. Lexus SUVs pull in
twice the money of the toyota camry that they share a frame with. The
300, Charger, challenger, and magnum are all the same platform with a
few major edits. Even the new 1 series from BMW is based on the 3
series and has the mass to prove it.

Speaking of which... (and getting back to the original thread.) I
wonder if the new subaru legacy is based on the same platform as the
previous generation. It's a good place to start.
 

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